UPDATE: It looks like the Recast uses about the same power as the Tablo TV DVR…
My friend Bill has just moved to New Hampshire and found an antenna on the roof of his new home. He replaced the pre-amp and pulled in stations from Portland Maine, Boston, and Manchester New Hampshire. I loaned him a TiVo Roamio and a Channel Master DVR+ so he could see how good broadcast television can be. We have been been talking about Roku TVs as well as whole house DVRs like Amazon’s Recast and the Tablo TV DVR.
The Tablo team put together a really even handed comparison of the two devices here…
The bottom line (according to Tablo’s blog)…
- Tablo is an open system supporting most streamers and services while Recast is a closed system designed to work with Amazon devices and services (see table below)
- Some Tablo products have internal storage and all support external storage to 8TB while all Amazon devices have internal storage and none [currently] support external storage
- Tablo supports six concurrent streams while the Recast supports two
- A Tablo DVR includes basic guide and recording functionality, but you must purchase their premium service to match (and surpass) what is included with the Recast
- Tablo (with the premium service) provides full out-of-home viewing and control while Recast is limited to mobile device playback
- The Tablo DVR uses less power than the Recast due to streaming architecture
This table compares client compatibility…
That’s what Bill thinks, anyway. I’m a little suspicious of the energy efficiency claims and Amazon has promised external storage will be available sometime after launch.
One of the devices missing from the table above is the Amazon Echo Show. I open Plex on the Show to watch recorded programs. It’s kind of a pain since you have to open the browser and type in the plex.tv url each time you want to watch something. So far, I have not been able to get live tv from my Extends. I really would like to watch live TV on my Shows, so this is a big plus for the Recast as far as I am concerned.
The Tablo TV DVR scales better since adding a second DVR does not require adding a second service (and you cannot add a second Recast at all). You can attach up to 8TB of storage to a single Tablo TV DVR
Amazon only supports one Recast per account. For me, that is very disappointing. Amazon has really disappointed in consumer electronics from their phones to the Echos and now the Recast. There is no reason to assume they will eventually get it right.
The comparison really does not address cost. Cost is very important. If you want an appliance with no monthly fees, the Recast wins. The retail cost of a 500GB, two tuner Recast is $229.99 and will be $179.99 on Black Friday. Use an Amazon credit card to pay and your OOP is $171. The 1TB, four tuner model is $279.99/$219.99/$209. The Tablo TV two tuner DVR is $139.99 BUT you will spend another $50 on a 1TB disk and you really need to shell out another $150 for all the features the Tablo blogger was talking about. So, $340. Get a refurb for $119.99 and you are still talking $320. The Tablo TV four tuner DVR is $199.96 BUT you will spend another $50 on a 1TB disk and you really need to shell out another $150 for all the features the Tablo blogger was talking about. So, $400. You can get the older two tuner Tablo TV DVR for $89.99 which would end up costing $290.
So, Bill, if cost is not an issue, get the Tablo TV DVR. It is simply the better DVR. Go ahead and get the four tuner unit, spring for the Lifetime Service, and get a really big disk. If you are not ready to throw $500 at a DVR, then get a Recast. Don’t bother with the four tuner model because the box is not robust enough to support four tuners.
Bienvenue au New Hampshire!
PS To DLFL who asked…
What does [‘Don’t bother with the four tuner model because the box is not robust enough to support four tuners’] mean and what is the evidence to support that statement?
It means you are limited to two streams regardless of which model you purchase. Combined with the fact that you can only have one Recast per account (also from the ARF: You can register one Fire TV Recast per Amazon account), this is very limiting…
from Amazon’s Recast FAQ…
With a 2-tuner Fire TV Recast, you can either:
- Record up to 2 programs at once,
- Watch up to 1 live and 1 recorded program on different devices, while recording another;
- Watch up to 2 recorded programs on different devices, while recording 2 programs in the background; OR
- Watch up to 2 live programs on different devices at once.
With a 4-tuner Fire TV Recast, you can either:
- Record up to 4 programs at once;
- Watch up to 1 live and 1 recorded program on different devices, while recording up to 3 other programs in the background;
- Watch up to 2 recorded programs on different devices, while recording up to 4 programs in the background; OR
- Watch up to 2 live programs on different devices at once while recording up to 2 other programs in the background.
from the Tablo Blog Post…
- On-the-fly transcoding requires A LOT of processing power, so every Recast device is limited to 2 concurrent viewing streams, regardless of whether you have a 2 or 4-tuner model